[Mrtrix-discussion] Urgent global tractography

Luis Concha lconcha at unam.mx
Thu Mar 27 09:19:58 PDT 2014


This new file shows a correctly organzed data set, with 4 dimensions, as
opposed to the previous one, which was 3D. It is surprising how many
volumes there are, but this may (or may not) be the case, depending on your
acquisition. I imagine these are different files? (by the way, you do not
need to be sudo to run mrinfo).

How many lines are there in your encoding.b file? you can check this with
wc -l encoding.b .  The value should match the number of volumes (515).

Have you tried converting your data with dcm2nii, as Donald suggested? It
should output bval and bvec files, which are trivial to convert to an
encoding.b file.

Dr. Luis Concha
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On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Vinay Kumar Shukla <
vinaykumar.shukla at univr.it> wrote:

>
> Hello!
> I will send you the dicom file. But hereis another problem with bvalue
> vips at Sebastian:~/Scrivania/data/Stroke/Control_001/tp1/1__RAWDATA/DSI$
> sudo mrinfo -grad encoding.b dwi.mif
> [sudo] password for vips:
> ************************************************
> Image:               "dwi.mif"
> ************************************************
>   Format:            MRtrix
>   Dimensions:        96 x 96 x 34 x 515
>   Voxel size:        2.20833 x 2.20833 x 3 x 6
>   Dimension labels:  0. left->right (mm)
>                      1. posterior->anterior (mm)
>                      2. inferior->superior (mm)
>                      3. undefined (?)
>   Data type:         signed 16 bit integer (little endian)
>   Data layout:       [ -0 +1 +2 +3 ]
>   Data scaling:      offset = 0, multiplier = 1
>   Comments:          ?TR:6000.000 TE:13
>   Transform:                    1           0           0      -103.8
>                                -0           1           0      -81.99
>                                -0           0           1       -38.2
>                                 0           0           0           1
>
> when I am using this using dw2tensor it says dwi2tensor: unexpected
> diffusion encoding matrix dimensions....
>
> Please help me out what went wrong here ????
> many thanks
>
> kind regards
> vinay
>
>
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: "Donald Tournier" <jdtournier at gmail.com>
> A: "Vinay Kumar Shukla" <vinaykumar.shukla at univr.it>
> Cc: "Thijs Dhollander" <thijs.dhollander at gmail.com>, "mrtrix mailinglist"
> <mrtrix-discussion at www.nitrc.org>
> Inviato: Giovedì, 27 marzo 2014 14:59:51
> Oggetto: Re: [Mrtrix-discussion] Urgent global tractography
>
>
>
> Hi Vinay,
>
>
> Something has clearly gone wrong with the DICOM conversion - you ended up
> with an image 768 voxels wide along the x-axis. Can I ask where these data
> come from? If you can send me the original DICOM data (using dropbox or
> whatever service you think is appropriate), I might be able to figure out
> what went wrong and fix the code to handle it (assuming this is a bug in
> MRtrix and not an issue with your data themselves). Otherwise, you could
> probably use the dcm2nii tool, although I have no experience with it, and
> you'd then need to convert your DW information into MRtrix format (others
> on this list should be able to help with that).
>
>
> Cheers,
> Donald.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 27 March 2014 11:30, Vinay Kumar Shukla < vinaykumar.shukla at univr.it >
> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone!!
>
> I converted dicom data using mrconvert.
> vips at Sebastian:~/Scrivania/data/Stroke/Control_001/tp1/1__RAWDATA$ mrinfo
> dwi.mif
> ************************************************
> Image: "dwi.mif"
> ************************************************
> Format: MRtrix
> Dimensions: 768 x 96 x 34
> Voxel size: 2.20833 x 2.20833 x 3
> Dimension labels: 0. left->right (mm)
> 1. posterior->anterior (mm)
> 2. inferior->superior (mm)
> Data type: 32 bit float (little endian)
> Data layout: [ -0 +1 +2 ]
> Data scaling: offset = 0, multiplier = 1
> Comments: 3T 2D EP TR=6000ms/TE=136ms/FA=90deg 20-Jan-2009 13:8:25.938
> Mosaic
> Transform: 1 0 0 -103.8
> -0 1 0 -81.99
> -0 0 1 -38.2
> 0 0 0 1
>
> but when I used dwi2tensor it says
>
> vips at Sebastian:~/Scrivania/data/Stroke/Control_001/tp1/1__RAWDATA$
> dwi2tensor dwi.mif dt.mif
> dwi2tensor: dwi image should contain at least 4 dimensions
>
> Can any body help me out what went wrong.
>
> looking forward for reply
>
>
> kind regards
> vinay
>
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: "Thijs Dhollander" < thijs.dhollander at gmail.com >
> A: "MRtrix discussion" < mrtrix-discussion at www.nitrc.org >
> Inviato: Mercoledì, 26 marzo 2014 17:46:05
>
>
> Oggetto: Re: [Mrtrix-discussion] Urgent global tractography
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Vinay,
>
> I'm not 100% sure, but I suppose you might have been confusing the term
> "global tractography" with "whole-brain tractography"; is that correct?
>
> If so, a good step-by-step tutorial on doing (whole-brain) tractography
> using MRtrix is provided in the manual:
> http://www.brain.org.au/software/mrtrix/tractography/index.html
>
>
>
>
> An detailed overview on the parameters/choices offered by MRtrix, and
> their impact on the final result is provided in the following paper:
> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ima.22005/full
>
>
> Hope this helps! :-)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Thijs
>
>
>
> Thijs Dhollander
> thijs.dhollander at gmail.com
> Tel. +32 475 36 44 27
> Medical Image Computing (MIC), ESAT-PSI, Department of Electrical
> Engineering, KU Leuven
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Vinay Kumar Shukla <
> vinaykumar.shukla at univr.it > wrote:
>
>
> Dear Daan,
> thanks for your kind reply and update.
> I mean steps need to follow to do tractography
> using Mrtrix. Because I look at documentaion
> and bit confuse from to start. I have DW data sets and grad file in text.
> What should I do and how to process it using mrtirx.
> any help would be really grateful.
> kind regards
> vinay
>
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: "Daan Christiaens" < Daan.Christiaens at esat.kuleuven.be >
> A: "Vinay Kumar Shukla" < vinaykumar.shukla at univr.it >,
> mrtrix-discussion at www.nitrc.org
> Inviato: Mercoledì, 26 marzo 2014 16:58:12
> Oggetto: Re: [Mrtrix-discussion] Urgent global tractography
>
> Dear Vinay,
>
> MRtrix does not offer global tractography for the moment. I¹m developing
> an add-on for this, but it¹s not yet ready to share. In the mean time,
> check out MITK Diffusion ( http://www.mitk.org/DiffusionImaging ).
>
> Best regards,
>
> Daan
>
>
> ir. Daan Christiaens
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>
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>
> On 26/03/14 16:40, "Vinay Kumar Shukla" < vinaykumar.shukla at univr.it >
> wrote:
>
> >Hello Everyone!
> >
> >I want to use mrtrix for global tractography.
> >It is possible can any one help me out what would be the
> >step by step process need to follow with DW data sets.
> >looking forward for reply & kind help
> >many thanks in advance
> >cheers !!
> >vinay
> >
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