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Jul 28, 2014 05:07 PM | Paul Fillmore - University of South Carolina
IBSR subject ages?
Hi -
We've been using the IBSR-18 dataset to evaluate our segmentation results, and were curious if the ages of the 18 participants are available anywhere. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
All the best,
Paul Fillmore
We've been using the IBSR-18 dataset to evaluate our segmentation results, and were curious if the ages of the 18 participants are available anywhere. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
All the best,
Paul Fillmore
Jul 30, 2014 02:07 PM | Andrew Worth
RE: IBSR subject ages?
That information is in the README.txt
file:
# Sex age
--- ----------
1 M 37
2 M 41
3 F JUV
4 M JUV
5 M 41
6 M 46
7 F 70
8 M 60
9 M 41
10 F 35
11 F 59
12 M 71
13 M JUV
14 M JUV
15 M 8
16 M 7
17 M 8
18 M 13
# Sex age
--- ----------
1 M 37
2 M 41
3 F JUV
4 M JUV
5 M 41
6 M 46
7 F 70
8 M 60
9 M 41
10 F 35
11 F 59
12 M 71
13 M JUV
14 M JUV
15 M 8
16 M 7
17 M 8
18 M 13
Andy.
Jul 30, 2014 05:07 PM | Paul Fillmore - University of South Carolina
RE: IBSR subject ages?
Thanks Andy, much appreciated. The readme that is distributed with
the "IBSR_V2.0 skull-stripped NIfTI" download doesn't list the
ages, but I see now that the other readme file does - sorry for
missing that. So in this case I'm guessing that "JUV" stands for
"juvenille"? Are these ages just unknown, or are they a catch all
for some range under 7 years? We're doing work related to creation
of age-appropriate MRI templates and evaluating the errors caused
by use of segmentation priors from very different ages, so you can
see how detailed age info would be crucial. Also, is there an easy
way to translate the IBSR20 images into NIFTI format? As those
images seem to be from a more homogenous age range than the IBSR18,
those might also be quite useful. It's great that you guys have put
together this resource for the neuroimaging community, it's very
helpful!
All the best,
Paul
All the best,
Paul
Jul 30, 2014 05:07 PM | Andrew Worth
RE: IBSR subject ages?
You're right, Paul. "JUV" means an unknown aged juvenile.
You might also be interested in the CANDI scans here on NITRC, and while it is not free, the labeled scans from Neuromorphometrics (full disclosure: that was a shameless
plug for my company!)
The IBSR20 scans are available in ANALYZE format which is the precursor to NIFTI so they should be easily converted (even with the sample code from http://nifti.nimh.nih.gov/nifti-1/). Setting the proper orientations will take some additional work though. Has anybody done this already? If so, I'd be happy to add that here.
Andy.
The IBSR20 scans are available in ANALYZE format which is the precursor to NIFTI so they should be easily converted (even with the sample code from http://nifti.nimh.nih.gov/nifti-1/). Setting the proper orientations will take some additional work though. Has anybody done this already? If so, I'd be happy to add that here.
Andy.
Jul 30, 2014 07:07 PM | Paul Fillmore - University of South Carolina
RE: IBSR subject ages?
Thanks Andy - I'll definitely check out CANDI, and will also
suggest the possibility of using Neuromorphometrics to our
group here. Do you know anything (or now of a good resource) about
the history of the two IBSR datasets? Were they all part of one
large study, done on the same scanner, or are they from multiple
places, or just a collection of clinical scans? I've just learned
of the dataset recently, and it's a bit tough to piece it together
from the papers I've been able to find. I'll keep you posted if I
get the NIFTI conversion done successfully. Thanks!
Jul 30, 2014 10:07 PM | Andrew Worth
RE: IBSR subject ages?
Hi Paul,
The somewhat random collection of labeled brain scans was put together by David Kennedy starting in 1996 at the Center for Morphometric Analysis (Massachusetts General Hospital). I did the web site (which now redirects to NITRC). It was not easy to convince the PIs of the various studies to give away their expensive results for nothing. It took weeks of work to label each scan. One of the stipulations was that not much information was to be given about the scans so all there is to know can be found in the associated README files. The scans were from various studies, but all, as far as I know, came from the same couple of scanners.
Andy.
The somewhat random collection of labeled brain scans was put together by David Kennedy starting in 1996 at the Center for Morphometric Analysis (Massachusetts General Hospital). I did the web site (which now redirects to NITRC). It was not easy to convince the PIs of the various studies to give away their expensive results for nothing. It took weeks of work to label each scan. One of the stipulations was that not much information was to be given about the scans so all there is to know can be found in the associated README files. The scans were from various studies, but all, as far as I know, came from the same couple of scanners.
Andy.
Jul 31, 2014 07:07 PM | Paul Fillmore - University of South Carolina
RE: IBSR subject ages?
Thanks Andy - that definitely helps give it some context. I
appreciate your help.