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Apr 1, 2015 12:04 PM | Fred Uquillas
RE: Movement
Hi Xiaozhen,
The Conn toolbox uses the ART Artifact Detection Toolbox, which computes regressor files for outliers and movement. To my knowledge, the scrubbing you're referring to (i.e., throwing out bad time points altogether), is implemented in a different toolbox with a similar name, that is, the ArtRepair toolbox from Stanford (http://cibsr.stanford.edu/tools/human-br...).
The reason why it is advised to use regression rather than removing outlier time points, is because you want to maintain the temporal resolution of the data. By removing time points, you're altering the length of scans, making some longer than others, for better or worse (though I'm under the impression it is for worse).
It would be nice if you could run both analyses, and tell us what you find. We did something similar: We looked at analysis results using the ART outlier regressors and no despiking, using art regressors and 'despiking', not using outlier regressors and not using despiking, and not using outlier regressors but using despiking. We're still under the process of finishing the comparisons.
All the best,
Fred
Originally posted by Xiaozhen You:
The Conn toolbox uses the ART Artifact Detection Toolbox, which computes regressor files for outliers and movement. To my knowledge, the scrubbing you're referring to (i.e., throwing out bad time points altogether), is implemented in a different toolbox with a similar name, that is, the ArtRepair toolbox from Stanford (http://cibsr.stanford.edu/tools/human-br...).
The reason why it is advised to use regression rather than removing outlier time points, is because you want to maintain the temporal resolution of the data. By removing time points, you're altering the length of scans, making some longer than others, for better or worse (though I'm under the impression it is for worse).
It would be nice if you could run both analyses, and tell us what you find. We did something similar: We looked at analysis results using the ART outlier regressors and no despiking, using art regressors and 'despiking', not using outlier regressors and not using despiking, and not using outlier regressors but using despiking. We're still under the process of finishing the comparisons.
All the best,
Fred
Originally posted by Xiaozhen You:
Thank you Fred for pointing me to that
thread!
So it's definitely only just regressing these outliers, my question then is statistically the effect same as scrubbing(removing time points when calculating functional connectivity)? since a big spike may still have motion residual effect? I'm wondering is the default CONN option is definitely superior than scrubbing, and whether CONN can provide that real scrubbing option, in case subject moves quite some volumes (especially in pediatric data), for some reason I thought scrubbed shorter time series will be cleaner for functional connectivity analysis..
Thanks!
Xiaozhen
So it's definitely only just regressing these outliers, my question then is statistically the effect same as scrubbing(removing time points when calculating functional connectivity)? since a big spike may still have motion residual effect? I'm wondering is the default CONN option is definitely superior than scrubbing, and whether CONN can provide that real scrubbing option, in case subject moves quite some volumes (especially in pediatric data), for some reason I thought scrubbed shorter time series will be cleaner for functional connectivity analysis..
Thanks!
Xiaozhen
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